Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon Jo Shape Review
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Topic: Waldner Senso Carbon JO Shape Posted: 03/09/2014 at 9:34am
Does anyone here utilise this bract, and if so what the caput dimensions are? I sympathise it is more balanced, non head heavy similar regular WSC? Donic De have no list for this blade, only Donic Nihon.
http://www.donic.jp/dwelling house/catalogue.php?pg=B/BL062
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 03/09/2014 at xi:13amThanks for the info AMonteiro. TT11 have told me they will be getting more stock at end of March. TT-Japan as well has it. Information technology has great reviews on TT11 but not many reviews elsewhere. I'd like to try the JO Version as I don't want a caput heavy setup
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 03/09/2014 at 11:32amare you wanting information technology in ST? (since TT11 has it in FL at the moment)
tt-japan may or may non actually have information technology... I ordered one a while dorsum and they wrote to me to say they really didn't have it (not certain what the deal was, and I'm not talking down on tt-nihon equally I continue to order from there and I'grand very pleased overall)
what weight are you looking for? I've owned 8 of them, ranging from 77 to 87 grams (all JO Shape ST)
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the_theologian wrote: are you lot wanting it in ST? (since TT11 has information technology in FL at the moment)
tt-nippon may or may non really take it... I ordered one a while back and they wrote to me to say they actually didn't have it (not sure what the deal was, and I'm non talking downwards on tt-japan as I continue to society from there and I'm very pleased overall)
what weight are you looking for? I've owned eight of them, ranging from 77 to 87 grams (all JO Shape ST)
I was looking for FL in 80g, although upto 85g is fine, when I emailed TT11 nigh weight and confirm in stock for FL a few days agone as could see information technology will permit me to add to basket
They said new stock will arrive at end of March. Information technology'due south weird as information technology lets you add FL to basket and I mentioned that to them simply seems they are out of stock of FL and ST
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 03/09/2014 at 12:20pm riker71 wrote: the_theologian wrote: are you wanting it in ST? (since TT11 has information technology in FL at the moment)
tt-nippon may or may not actually accept it... I ordered one a while back and they wrote to me to say they really didn't take it (non sure what the deal was, and I'm non talking downward on tt-nihon as I go on to order from at that place and I'm very pleased overall)
what weight are you looking for? I've endemic viii of them, ranging from 77 to 87 grams (all JO Shape ST)
I was looking for FL in 80g, although upto 85g is fine, when I emailed TT11 about weight and confirm in stock for FL a few days ago as could see it will let me to add together to basket
They said new stock will arrive at end of March. It's weird as it lets y'all add FL to basket and I mentioned that to them only seems they are out of stock of FL and ST
I'k wondering if at that place'southward just some miscommunication there every bit I just checked and it appears there are 14 FL in stock. I've ordered many times from tt11 and I've never experienced an inaccuracy.
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 03/09/2014 at 12:22pmbtw iruiru likewise carries it... pricey though: http://www.iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=B&mk=L&gd=BL062
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 03/09/2014 at 12:35pmMost strange, as I queried them having the FL bachelor to add to basket, their electronic mail back said FL is out of stock too-perhaps their online stock organization is not working properly- but where does it say 14 in stock?
I'thousand happy to wait if they will have stock by the end of the month.
Discover TT11 likewise take a WSC lite version (non available) and one with Waldners signature on, seems TT11 are the WSC specialists
I'd concur re TT Japan they are a practiced seller. I as well constitute information technology for less at Dynaspo
http://www.dynaspo.com/products/2139-dynasports-donic-waldner-senso-carbon-jo-shape.aspx
just haven't used them before and they enquire you to utilize a mail forwarding service
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Postal service Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 03/09/2014 at 12:37pm riker71 wrote: Near strange, as I queried them having the FL available to add to basket, their email back said FL is out of stock too-possibly their online stock system is non working properly- merely where does it say 14 in stock?
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I'd agree re TT Japan they are a good seller. I as well found it for less at Dynaspo
http://www.dynaspo.com/products/2139-dynasports-donic-waldner-senso-carbon-jo-shape.aspx
but haven't used them before and they ask you lot to use a postal service forwarding service
I e'er see how many the cart will let me add (15 gives error)
didn't know dynaspo had it... never ordered from them
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Mail service Options Thanks(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 03/13/2014 at 11:58pmOur equipment expert actually uses the Donic WSC and is adamant that he won't alter to whatever other blade. Let me try and discover out what's happening with the WSC stock for y'all and the discrepancy with the website and your emails.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 03/14/2014 at vii:58amThey confirmed for me that they are out of stock with the ST handles only yet accept flared in stock as the site states. If you have any further problems please feel gratuitous to PM the states here on the forum and we will try and get everything sorted.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 03/14/2014 at 8:08amJust adds weight that the_theologian knows proficient blades
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 04/23/2017 at iv:12amIn case someone is still interested in the details and operation of this bract, we've merely published an in-depth skilful review of information technology on our weblog: http://blog.tabletennis11.com/donic-waldner-jo-shape-and-senso-carbon-review
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 05/25/2017 at 12:56pmFor me, the ST handled, non-senso JO LE is probably the best blade I've ever used. I've owned two WSC (not the limited edition, one FL, one ST) and while both had great feeling the hollow handle bothered me for some reason. I ordinarily like caput heavy setups but the rest felt unlike with the 4mm longer handle.
The express edtion (non-Senso) blade, however, probably has the best balance, feeling, and comfort in my paw that I've experienced to date. So much control, plenty of speed (OFF vs OFF- with WSC) and looping is a dream. I like to hit and block a lot on the backhand and the bract is stiff enough for my trajectory. The WSC felt more flexy to me than the LE although many say the WSC is pretty stiff, yet somehow nevertheless loftier throw.
I'm not certain, simply the handle's profile on the not-Senso LE feels more circular where the WSC felt more oval, merely I accept no manner to confirm this and may just exist my imagination. The not-Senso's handle is not hollow which makes the bract very balanced and fits similar a glove in my hand.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/25/2017 at 4:42pmThe speed difference for example might exist because of unlike bract weight aswell :)
JO actually plays/played with the hollow handle himself.
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/25/2017 at six:30pm DLC1325 wrote: For me, the ST handled, not-senso JO LE is probably the best bract I've e'er used. I've owned two WSC (non the limited edition, i FL, one ST) and while both had bully feeling the hollow handle bothered me for some reason. I commonly like head heavy setups but the balance felt different with the 4mm longer handle.
The limited edtion (not-Senso) blade, withal, probably has the best balance, feeling, and comfort in my mitt that I've experienced to date. So much control, plenty of speed (OFF vs OFF- with WSC) and looping is a dream. I like to hit and block a lot on the backhand and the blade is stiff enough for my trajectory. The WSC felt more than flexy to me than the LE although many say the WSC is pretty strong, notwithstanding somehow still high throw.
I'grand not certain, but the handle'south profile on the non-Senso LE feels more than circular where the WSC felt more oval, merely I have no way to ostend this and may but be my imagination. The non-Senso's handle is not hollow which makes the blade very counterbalanced and fits like a glove in my hand.
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I bought information technology twice
I dont know where tou purchased this "Not-senso JO LE". The second paradigm from TT11.com shows clearly that the handle is milled out, which led me to believe that information technology was senso ((that and the lens says so also). I'm not proverb that you are incorrect nearly you bract. I am just curious as to where yous purchased information technology, every bit I was interested in ownership one, thinking that the handle was solid, simply once I saw that they were Senso I lost interest.
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 05/25/2017 at 7:06pmits non a difficult task to fill a senso handle if yous don't like the hollow feel and add a tad of weight.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 05/26/2017 at iii:24am king_pong wrote: I dont know where tou purchased this "Not-senso JO LE". The 2nd paradigm from TT11.com shows conspicuously that the handle is milled out, which led me to believe that it was senso ((that and the lens says so too). I'chiliad not saying that you are incorrect about you blade. I am merely curious every bit to where you purchased it, every bit I was interested in buying one, thinking that the handle was solid, simply once I saw that they were Senso I lost interest.
I bought it at TT11: http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-waldner-jo-shape-limited-edition
Yes, the second moving-picture show and blade reviewed in the article (which is nether the heading "Donic Waldner Senso Carbon JO Shape Limited Edition") is the Limited Edition WSC JO. I gather it is exactly like the normal WSC JO that Waldner himself uses, just the colors are different and has an prototype of him with text of his acheivements.
The blade I linked to and take is the Donic Waldner JO Shape Limited Edition and its 5 plies of wood and the handle is definitely solid:
I remember I worded things in my post a footling weird...
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/26/2017 at 3:28am mog1111 wrote: its non a difficult job to make full a senso handle if you lot don't like the hollow feel and add a tad of weight.
No, not a hard task, just for me I as well did not like the carbon feel even though it definitely does not feel like carbon about of the time every bit many have said over the years. However, there were times when I could feel and hear that "ping". I much prefer all wood.
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 05/26/2017 at iii:54amI do want a bit of ping! Just not insane bouncing everywhere ping of some modern off+ blades
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Mail Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 05/26/2017 at 4:06amA disadvantage of using the WSC JO shape is that, considering of the usual shape, rubbers won't fit properly on other blades. For me not a problem since I am non an EJ and the WSC JO shape is the only blade I use.
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Mail service Options Thank you(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 05/26/2017 at 4:10amwhat shaps is it. is it 160mm in length. that would put me off
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/26/2017 at iv:50amMine is 161mm - width is 150mm. The shoulders are more narrow than most other blades. This makes it (for me) more than comfortable to hold.
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/26/2017 at iv:53amThe normal WSC shorter and a more traditional shape. I prefer the JO shape, but they don't differ that much.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 05/27/2017 at iv:55pm DLC1325 wrote: king_pong wrote: I dont know where tou purchased this "Non-senso JO LE". The 2nd paradigm from TT11.com shows conspicuously that the handle is milled out, which led me to believe that information technology was senso ((that and the lens says so too). I'yard not saying that you are incorrect about y'all bract. I am just curious every bit to where y'all purchased information technology, as I was interested in buying one, thinking that the handle was solid, only one time I saw that they were Senso I lost interest.
I bought it at TT11: http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-waldner-jo-shape-limited-edition
Yes, the second pic and bract reviewed in the article (which is under the heading "Donic Waldner Senso Carbon JO Shape Limited Edition") is the Limited Edition WSC JO. I gather it is exactly similar the normal WSC JO that Waldner himself uses, simply the colors are unlike and has an image of him with text of his acheivements.
The bract I linked to and have is the Donic Waldner JO Shape Limited Edition and its v plies of forest and the handle is definitely solid:
I think I worded things in my post a piffling weird...
OK, glad you lot clarified that, considering the thread is concerning the JO shaped WSC, then I idea you must be comparing that one to the "JO Shaped WSC LE".
The regular Limited Edition is made like the JO Shaped Dicon, only that the handle is slimmer and it is not milled out. They take a very similar 'ping' audio when you do the "skull test"
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